At the identical time that Cowboy Bebop’s trio of heroes is preserving busy searching down worthwhile bounties, they’re additionally dwelling within the shadow of the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate, a company from Spike Spiegel’s previous that begins catching up with him within the current day as Netflix’s new collection begins. Before Jet and Faye, it was Vicious and Julia who Spike most thought of his household, and the lives that trio led collectively have been blissful… to some extent.

Though Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop introduces Julia (Elena Satine) and Vicious (Alex Hassell) because the femme fatale and lunatic villain whose presences immediate Spike to spring into gear, the pair go on to grow to be rather more dynamic characters with surprisingly comprehensible motivations for what they do. Like within the unique anime, Julia and Vicious play key roles in how Cowboy Bebop’s first season builds to its climax. But the live-action present options numerous moments that take them each in surprisingly completely different instructions and deviate from the supply materials in an effort to give them new ranges of depth.

When io9 lately sat down with Satine and Hasell to debate the surprising locations the primary season leaves their characters, the actors broke down how the whole lot we see Julia and Vicious do is grounded in a logic that’s actually solely clear to them. But these round them discover out they need to have been paying nearer consideration.

Charles Pulliam-Moore, io9: By the top of the season, we see this fully completely different facet of Julia who takes Spike and Vicious without warning along with her actions. In that closing episode, how has Julia’s relationship with energy modified in comparison with the place she’s at at first of the season?

Elena Satine: At that time, she’s been by way of a lot in her relationship with Vicious. She feels actually betrayed and lied to by Spike as a result of he just about, in keeping with her, deserted her and didn’t come to rescue her figuring out the state of affairs that she was left in. When we discover her within the cathedral, she’s simply fed up. She’s fed up with each of them frankly, and actually needs to take management of her personal life. She actually embraces this second and this energy and realizes that she doesn’t want rescuing, which is such an exquisite place to attempt to land on contemplating that you already know what we see her undergo in her marriage.

io9: What different features of Julia are there that you just wish to discover now that she’s on this new place of autonomy and company?

Satine: I’m actually curious to see how that interprets to what will occur with the Syndicate as a result of we see her type of, in a approach, advising Vicious all through the season. You can inform that he listens to her. You can inform that he takes what she says, and he believes that she’s good and she or he is aware of what he’s speaking about, and he believes that she’s his associate and she or he’s on his facet. So clearly she is aware of much more concerning the Syndicate than she lets on. So I’m actually to see how that performs out.

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io9: Even although the present spends a lot time telling us how a lot Vicious and Spike are in love with Julia, what you possibly can see is how intense that concord between the 2 of them is, and the way it’s part of what makes them act the way in which they do. To you, what was the extra difficult emotional reasoning Vicious was working by way of that went deeper than “I love this woman, and I want to kill you?”

Alex Hassell: It’s actually, actually helpful to have episode 9, which is that this flashback episode the place we get a whole lot of Vicious’ backstory with the way in which that he was introduced up and the completely horrific approach during which he noticed his mom commit suicide. He’s had this horrible strain from his father to be a sure type of thought of masculinity and violence and power, so I assume I attempted to assume quite a bit about what Vicious may need been like earlier than he was Vicious. You know, when he had an precise identify and was a boy, and perhaps had an actual smooth core and a creative type of fine-ness that was type of brutally abused out of him.

I feel that that’s one thing that Spike introduced out of him—a way of play and a way of hope even, and a way of being supported. So I assume it’s at all times helpful in the event you’re taking part in characters which can be, for need of a much less productive phrase, “bad,” to attempt to take into consideration the counterpoint to that. Most individuals don’t assume that they’re making unhealthy selections. They’re making an attempt to make good selections that they assume will assist their state of affairs, nonetheless egocentric.

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io9: So a lot of this present finally finally ends up being about individuals discovering their households, and I’m curious to listen to from you each. What is household precisely outdoors of that literal factor for Julia and Vicious? What does it imply to them each?

Satine: I received’t communicate for Vicious, however I feel for me, it’s having any individual that’s in your facet and irrespective of how, irrespective of how tousled the state of affairs is, which explains a whole lot of this relationship. You could make excuses for unhealthy issues which can be taking place to you if there’s a individual that’s in your facet, and I really feel like each of those characters are fairly alone on this planet, and what they’ve is one another. So in a approach, they make excuses for a way horrible their relationship is as a result of on the finish of the day, they go to mattress collectively and they’re their companions.

Hassell: The approach that we go away Vicious is that he actually has no thought in any respect. No steerage as to what household—definitely a loving household—could be. I feel he feels betrayed by everybody, extremely remoted, lonely, and actually damaged. Part of the rationale that he’s the way in which that he’s, is that he has no good mannequin, and that’s a really tough place to be. 

Cowboy Bebop is now streaming on Netflix.

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